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sunweaver [SCM Commits List (x2go-commits)]
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-====== Communication Resources ======
+====== Overview on X2Go Community Communication ======
-X2Go is mainly organized via IRC and mailing lists. We use IRC in cases where we need quick feedback on specific issues. IRC is also a place where you can get community support from.
+X2Go is mainly organized via IRC or [matrix] chat and via mailing lists. We use IRC/[matrix] in cases where we need quick feedback on specific issues. IRC/[matrix] are also places where you can get community support from.  In fact, our IRC/[matrix] channels are bridged, so let's consider them as a single place.
 With the mailing lists, all content is public. The major (long term) discussions happen on the mailing lists. Also the dicussions from the bug tracker are cross-posted to one of the lists (x2go-dev ML). Before you can send to one of the X2Go mailing lists, you have to get a subscription. This is to avoid spam on the mailing lists.
-If you want to ask a question or want to make suggestions, please feel free to show up on IRC or to join those lists you are interested in.
+If you want to ask a question or want to make suggestions, please feel free to show up on IRC or [matrix] or to join one of those mailing lists you are interested in.
 Before asking questions, it is always a good idea to have a look inside the archives of a list to see if a topic has already been discussed and a solution to your question been provided.
-As there are already people on the list who may have spent a lot of time working on this project, please be kind and think about what you are going to write ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette|Netiquette]]). Please keep in mind that our list archives are public and that they are visited by search engines!
+As there are already people on the mailing lists / chat channels who may have spent a lot of time working on this project, please be kind and think about what you are going to write ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette|Netiquette]]). Please keep in mind that our mailing list archives are public and that they are visited by search engines!
-===== Join us on IRC =====
+===== Join our chat room via IRC =====
-The X2Go upstream developer+contributor team runs its own IRC channel on Freenode. Join us in the ''#x2go'' channel on ''irc.freenode.org'':
+The X2Go upstream developer+contributor team runs its own IRC/[matrix] channel on Libera.Chat (bridged over to matrix.org). Join us in the ''#x2go'' channel on ''irc.libera.chat'':
 <code>
-/connect irc.freenode.org
+/connect irc.libera.chat
 /join #x2go
 </code>
-NOTE: Many of the upstream developers of X2Go live in Europe (CEST timezone). So if you are ,,from far away'' then make sure you hover around on IRC long enough for one us to get out of bed, have breakfast and answer your questions. You may have to ask your question on IRC and stay in the channel over (your) night and look for an answer the next morning.
+NOTE: Many of the upstream developers of X2Go live in Europe (CEST timezone). So if you are »from far away« then make sure you hover around on IRC long enough for one us to get out of bed, have breakfast and answer your questions. You may have to ask your question on IRC and stay in the channel over (your) night and look for an answer the next morning.
-===== Mailing Lists =====
+===== Join our chat room via [matrix] =====
-  * [[https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-announcement|x2go-announcement]] - this list is used for human-readable announcements (read only! no digests possible! very low traffic!)
-  * [[https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-user|x2go-user]] - this list is used for discussion about x2go, usage examples, user needs and collaboration
-  * [[https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev|x2go-dev]] - this list is used for the conversation of x2go developers
-  * [[https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-commits|x2go-commits]] - this list is used as a log of GIT and wiki commits (read only!)
-  * [[https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-tags|x2go-tags]] - this list is used as a log of GIT tagging -- mostly code get tagged in Git if/when a new version for a project is out (read only!)
+The X2Go upstream developer+contributor team runs its own [matrix]/IRC channel on matrix.org (bridged over to Libera.Chat IRC). Join us via our ''#x2go:matrix.org'' [matrix] channel:
-===== Mail2News/Archive at Gmane =====
+  * register for a [matrix] account (either on a self-hosted [matrix] homeserver or on one of the publicly available homeservers (e.g. matrix.org)
+  * Explore public rooms
+  * search for #x2go
+  * join that room
-Nearly all mailing list postings are cross-posted to the Gmane mail archives. For more information on Gmane, please read here: http://gmane.org/about.php
+NOTE: Many of the upstream developers of X2Go live in Europe (CEST timezone). So if you are »from far away«, expect answers being delayed. The advantage of [matrix] over IRC is that chat history is persistent and you should be able to ask a question, go offline, come back later and find your answer in the chat history.
-  * [[http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.announce|gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.announce]] -- X2Go announcements (read-only)
-  * [[http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.devel|gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.devel]] -- X2Go development group
-  * [[http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.user|gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.user]] -- X2Go user mailing list
-  * [[http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.scm|gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.scm]]	-- X2Go Git commit messages (read-only)
-  * [[http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.tags|gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.tags]] -- X2Go Git taggings (read-only)
-===== Web 2.0 =====
+===== Mailing Lists =====
-  * [[https://www.xing.com/net/x2go/|Xing X2Go group]]
-  * [[http://x2go-community.org|X2Go User Forum: x2go-community.org (German / Englisch)]] -- get German support here!!!
-The site [[http://x2go-community.org]] is run by Tobias Luther from the German [[http://www.linux4afrika.de|Linux4Africa]] project and especially aims at the German(-only) speaking people of the X2Go user community. Esp. those of you who prefer a forum-like website to using mailing lists and feel uncomfortable with writing/reading/discussing in English.
-Tobias Luther will make sure to involve the developers / power users from the international community, so that synergies will be made.
-====== Latest Postings on X2Go Mailing Lists ======
-===== Mailing Lists for Users =====
+The X2Go project changed its mailing lists services in April 2014. For those interested, [[:contact:end-of-berlios|here is the announcement]] that explains about the why, when and what.
+<note important>
+**NOTE THAT YOU NEED TO BE SUBSCRIBED TO THE LIST YOU WANT TO POST A MESSAGE TO, OR YOUR MESSAGE WILL NOT BE READ NOR WILL IT BE FORWARDED TO THE LIST!**
-==== Announcement List (x2go-announcement) ====
+(This is due to the massive amount of spam we would be receiving if we didn't enforce this policy.)
-This List is addressed to Users - this list is a read-only list and it informs you about newly released X2Go components or other important issues related to X2Go.
-  * [[http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-announcement|Subscription Page]]
-=== Latest Postings... ===
-{{rss>http://rss.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.announce}}
-==== User List (x2go-user) ====
+Subscription is a double-opt-in process, so you cannot post until you have followed the instructions in the confirmation e-mail sent to your subscription address.
-This List is addressed to Users - this list is the right place to ask questions about installation issues and needed documentation.
+</note>
-  * [[http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-user|Subscription Page]]
+  * [[https://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-announcements|x2go-announcements]] - this list is used for human-readable announcements (read only! no digests possible! very low traffic!)
-  * Please read and respect our communication [[contact:guidelines]]
+  * [[https://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user|x2go-user]] - this list is used for discussion about x2go, usage examples, user needs and collaboration
-=== Latest Postings... ===
+  * [[https://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-dev|x2go-dev]] - this list is used for the conversation of x2go developers
-{{rss>http://rss.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.user}}
+  * [[https://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-commits|x2go-commits]] - this list is used as a log of GIT and wiki commits (read only!)
+  * [[https://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-tags|x2go-tags]] - this list is used as a log of GIT tagging -- mostly code get tagged in Git if/when a new version for a project is out (read only!)
-===== Mailing Lists for Developers =====
+View latest postings of all X2Go mailing lists on [[news:latest-list-postings|this extra page]].
-==== Development List (x2go-dev) ====
+===== Archive at The Mail Archive =====
-This List is addressed to Developers - please don't use this list to ask questions about installation issues.
-  * [[http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev|Subscription Page]]
-  * Please read and respect our communication [[contact:guidelines]]
-=== Latest Postings... ===
-{{rss>http://rss.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.devel}}
-==== Wiki/SCM Commits List (x2go-commits) ====
+Nearly all mailing list postings are cross-posted to The Mail Archive. The Mail Archive provides a FAQ list at [[https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html]]
-This List is addressed to Developers - the list is read-only, Git commits and changes on X2Go wiki pages are posted to this list.
-  * [[http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-commits|Subscription Page]]
-=== Latest Postings... ===
-{{rss>http://rss.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.scm}}
-==== SCM Tags List (x2go-tags) ====
+  * [[https://www.mail-archive.com/x2go-announcements@lists.x2go.org|X2Go announcements (read-only)]]
-This List is addressed to developers and esp. to __distribution packagers__ - the list is read-only, Git taggings are posted to this list. Packagers (people who package X2Go for Linux distributions) can get auto-informed about newly tagged versions in our [[wiki:development:git|X2Go Git]] upstream code repository.
+  * [[https://www.mail-archive.com/x2go-project@lists.x2go.org|X2Go project (read-only)]]
-  * [[http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-tags|Subscription Page]]
+  * [[https://www.mail-archive.com/x2go-dev@lists.x2go.org|X2Go development group]]
-=== Latest Postings... ===
+  * [[https://www.mail-archive.com/x2go-user@lists.x2go.org|X2Go user mailing list]]
-{{rss>http://rss.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.tags}}
+  * [[https://www.mail-archive.com/x2go-commits@lists.x2go.org|X2Go Git commit messages (read-only)]]
+  * [[https://www.mail-archive.com/x2go-tags@lists.x2go.org|X2Go Git taggings (read-only)]]

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